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  • Donnacha
    Nov 27, 05:05 PM
    *smacks head on desk*
    Beating a dead horse...

    Congratulations on starting your point with not one but two violent images... clearly, you must be a real PRO.

    This thread is about the possible introduction of a 17" monitor to possibly complement the Mac Mini, Apple's only headless consumer desktop.

    My point is that introducing a new size will do little to plug the consumer-sized hole in Apple's monitor line-up. If Apple can squeeze extra money out of some egotists who like to think of themselves as prosumers, fine, but the overwhelming majority of users aren't going to get anal about some supposed color-accuracy issues: they want a good-quality, good-looking reliable monitor and if Apple can't provide that at a decent price, Apple loses them to someone who can.

    Apple could, of course, bring out two lines of monitors, one for print professionals and one to compete directly with Dell but, of course, they won't because it wouldn't take long for people to realize that there isn't really that much difference.

    Terms such as "color accuracy" probably make people worry that Dell's display all reds as green whereas, in fact, we're talking about differences that are indiscernible to the untrained eye. I would wager that barely 1% of customers who pore such technical details actually need or even understand them.

    You're right, Dell monitor's are fine for my needs. Before you write them off, however, as being "cheapo" and irrelevant to Apple's market, I suggest you take a look at one of these Ultrasharps - personally, I'm not a fan of Dell computers, but their recent monitors are catching up fast with Apple.

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  • theBB
    Jul 19, 04:17 PM
    There are more details here - http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060719/sfw089.html?.v=60
    Desktop sales are down 14% on last quarter, and 23% on a year ago, but laptop sales are up a whopping 60% on last quarter and 61% on a year ago.
    23% drop in desktop sales is surprising to me. Is it just due to people waiting for PowerMacs with Intels? It is not a good sign that higher iMac sales are not making up for it.

    Of course, maybe Apple sold so many Mac Minis last year, that a drop was inevitable.

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  • whooleytoo
    Sep 6, 02:08 PM
    Look, they discontinued the $50 BTO superdrive option on the lower end model. Are they purposely trying to drive me to Velocity Micro?

    It's the one thing I don't like about buying Apple - they deliberately restrict options on their lower cost hardware to push you to choose a more expensive model. Other OEMs seem happy to allow you to choose your model, then add on whatever you choose, with Apple you only really have options if you choose the most expensive model (Mac Pro) to begin with.

    That's why we're never likely to see a cheap mini-tower Mac again, with upgradable CPU & GPU.*

    I should add though, I'm glad there is an option in the mini line not to have a DVD writer, if it saves a few euros. I've had 3 Macs with them and have burnt a total of 2 DVDs, a complete waste of money.

    (* yes, that was said deliberately in the hope of having egg on my face in a week's time. ;) )

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  • Danksi
    Dec 30, 12:30 AM
    At lease out TV's aren't upside down :D :cool: ;)

    .. it appears your keyboard layout is different though. :p

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  • triceretops
    Apr 12, 10:18 PM
    Is there anybody actually filming this? From what the tweets are describing, the audience are loving it, i'd like to see this keynote.

    Everybody there is an editor. They don't know how to use a camera.:p

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  • AvSRoCkCO1067
    Jul 19, 05:00 PM
    The great numbers shown today just prove that this is the perfect moment to bury MS once and for all in the OS war...OS X is by far the best system, and Longsight is still more than 6 months away...Microsoft is doomed.


    Aren't there still more people using Windows Me/Windows 98/Windows 95 than all Mac OS users...??? People don't upgrade quickly - it would be dozens of years before Apple could even have, say, a 25% marketshare.

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  • markie
    Oct 20, 02:01 PM
    Consumer Reports has always been corrupt and in it to tear down companies. Look at the Suzuki Samurai, which was a great vehicle and sales dropped when they said it was prone to rollover. Too bad it wasn't, and they had to modify the test course several times to tip the car... designed specifically for that vehicle to exploit it's weakest point.

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  • prady16
    Oct 23, 10:16 AM
    I ordered a MBP 2.16GHz with 2gigs Ram last tuesday (17th october) and on apples "order status" it is estimated to be shipped on friday the 27th.. so I hope there an update during this week :D
    You could actually be in luck!!

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  • ipedro
    Apr 12, 10:26 PM
    You're not taking into account that the price is for FCP X alone, not the whole suite of app's

    In fact I was. I said Final Cut Pro should sell for around $300, not Final Cut Studio.

    - iMovie for the general public.
    - Final Cut Pro for those who want more control ranging from the semi-pro to the big movie studio.

    I'm guessing that the other apps will be announced as part of Final Cut Studio before FCP comes out of beta or you'll be able to buy those apps as standalone in the app store.

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  • CyberB0b
    Sep 7, 08:22 AM
    BUt who uses DVDs anymore?

    Only people who watch movies.

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  • BRLawyer
    Aug 26, 08:02 AM
    Mr. Lawyer, there are several people on this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=227917) who would beg to differ with you....

    Well, that thread is about purported Apple support problems...Olsen's Asymmetry teaches us that small groups with special interests tend to scream louder...

    I had a whining problem with my first Rev. A iMac G5 and Apple gave me a new one after verifying my case...Apple is the best in support for several years in a row...so we don't have to worry, we still have the best service in the industry...

    But to say that LCD and computers "die"? Nonsense for Apple computers, really...I've never seen such cases, and I am sure my old iBook G3 is a 1000x more reliable than a brand-spanking new Dull.

    We demand so much more than other users that even 2 dead pixels on a screen are cause for alarm...

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  • aussie_geek
    Oct 23, 08:21 PM
    What do you think's in store for mwsf?

    hmmm - lots of stuff (santa rosa MacBook Pros of course :p ).

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  • NebulaClash
    Sep 15, 09:00 AM
    No, you are missing the point. Yes auto manufactures have recalls all the time and yes the customer has to come in to get it fixed on previous purchases. HOWEVER, they also fix all NEW automobiles before continue to sell to new customers. Apple isn't doing that, and that is CR's complaint.

    If it was a safety issue, as with cars, Apple would do the same thing. But it's not, so it's silly to to conflate the two. That was not the intent of my analogy, and that's being missed by those focusing on the trees.

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  • emotion
    Nov 28, 05:07 AM
    I'm surprised no one has ventured a guess as to whether these 17" monitors are going to be glossy or matte.

    :D :D :D

    Cue 10 page heated argument.

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  • NebulaClash
    Sep 14, 12:03 PM
    I think you are a minority of one on this interpretation.

    Then you should read the entire thread and see that you are wrong in this thought.

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  • Evangelion
    Aug 29, 09:20 AM
    Compared to similarly priced PC's, $799 for a yonah duo 1.8 is pretty weak.

    To be honest, I'd rather see the cheaper model drop in price (if not both) than a speed bump.

    Since we don't know the prices yet, my suggestion is that we don't touch the "jump to conclusions mat" just yet.

    My take on this is that it's a great update! The performance of the base-model is more than doubled when you really think about it! Bring on the updates!

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  • epicwelshman
    Aug 29, 08:56 AM
    I think it's ridiculous to not put a Core 2 Duo chip into the Mini. While I'm not waiting for Merom, to upgrade one of your machines with a faster version of the same soon-to-be-out-of-date chip is silly.

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  • lordonuthin
    Nov 21, 06:45 PM
    yes, you need a passkey to get the bonus. and you won't get the bonus until you have 10 units with that passkey.

    but please let us know how long it takes to do a frame. i would like to know how that machine does

    That sounds like a great machine that could do better than my new mac pro according to the front page here at MacRumors :eek:

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  • KnightWRX
    Apr 27, 01:12 PM
    I was simply suggesting that Apple used the term "App" as a familiar leaning to the way they call software "Applications" in Mac OS. Also, Apple have being refering to software that runs on their operating systems as "Applications" since 1980: -

    The Apple Lisa (precursor to the original 1984 Macintosh) had an Applications folder in 1980.


    The Macintosh has obviously had an Applications folder from 1984 to present

    In terms of GUI history and it's conventions, there was the Xerox Alto as far back as 1973 but from all the screen shot hunting I've done, it seems to have no Applications or Programs folder because it has a "starting point" (indicated by the Start box) and then a list of files to open, some of which end in .run which presumably are executable programs/applications: -


    So yeah, "The Macintosh" wasn't the first GUI that had APPlicationS but Apple appear to have a LOT of prior use of the term with the Lisa OS before it in 1980 and GUI consistency between Mac OS X and iOS being a cut down version OS X, they logically refer to Applications on iOS devices in a cut down form too.

    And all of that doesn't matter. Apple refers to software as Applications because that's what the whole industry does. Microsoft, IBM, Google, Sun, HP, the industry has always used Application to refer to software (Program has also been used). App has always been the shortened form of Application, heck in the 80s, Visicalc was referred to as the "Killer app" for Apple computers.

    Your ranting as no relevance to the case at hand. Apple has no more claim to the term than anyone else and App or Application is not the trademark being discussed here.

    Jan 13, 05:42 PM
    All this 'air' hype is ridiculous!

    MacBook Air!?!? What are you guys thinking?

    Crazy. :rolleyes:

    Jan 31, 07:18 PM
    It's keeping the OEM 17s, I look the OEM+ look. It's simple and good looking.

    Mar 24, 01:58 PM
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    I wonder if this may imply the coming of that unicorn rider we all know and love, the 'headless mac" (aka xMac).

    Removable drives, no screen, more powerful than an iMac, 1499.99.

    That is exactly what I'm thinking! Seriously there is no need for that many GPUs in the Pro and IMac requires a custom card. So where would all of these cards go - XMac is my guess.

    Or it could simply be a sign of a unified driver from AMD. That would make sense as it is a smarter approach than the highly targeted drivers of the past.

    Jul 18, 06:02 AM
    I was trying to avoid the whining, but now that you bring it up... when is apple going to bring the video content to other coutries?

    In Belgium, we were promised video downloads in 2006

    Yeah, if it's $9.99 to rent, it's going to fail. $1.99, might be worth it. I'm sure a lot of people will be happy, then a lot of people will complain. Both with have good points, but the rest of us won't care.

    Yeah, $2 seems right for a movie (in twisted Apple calculations this is 2,49 euros) I normally watch movies only once, so rental would be better, especially with a modest hard drive

    We can always hope that they also want to make business outside US.


    Surely the TV Shows issue is because the US shows are sold on to European TV Stations, usually after the show has aired in the states. These TV Stations aren't going to be too pleased if they've shelled out a bucketload of money for the UK premier of 24 for example, only to have it show up on iTunes before they've even aired it.

    The only way it can work is if iTunes waits until after all the channels have aired it first. In the UK you'd find 24 showing up on something like E4, then Channel 4, then some of the scrubbers like Channel 5 or Bravo would likely have a deal, then it could show up on iTunes. By then the show is so old that there's no point. Hence, I imagine, why we don't get iTunes TV Shows here.

    The shows would probably be different in the international stores, like here in Belgium we will have to split, one for Flanders (Dutch subtitles, although a lot of people also know English, like me) and one for Wallon (French dubbing/subtitles)
    And there would probably be an offer of Belgian TV shows, along with international ones that have already aired here. I do hope we will have the chance to buy some more shows that, won't come out in Belgium, at least not on DVD.

    Hilmi Hamidi
    Feb 23, 09:26 AM

    Elegant setup. What speaker is that?

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